From: Balakrishnan Shankar (balakrishnan_sh@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Dec 25 2000 - 15:47:37 PST
From: "Balakrishnan Shankar" <balakrishnan_sh@hotmail.com> Subject: Merry Christmas to everyone! Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 18:47:37 -0500 Message-ID: <F155V0Q1xFqoPYzq67w000034b0@hotmail.com>
Dear Visvanath and Others,
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
It is so uncanny that you brought out the similarities between Amma and Sri
Ramakrishna on this holy day of Jesus. The Ramakrishna Order was founded on
Christmas day by Swami Vivekananda and other disciples , and Sri Ramakrishna
too had had during his sadhana days the great vision of Jesus who appeared
and merged into Sri Ramakrishna.
Amma too has many connections to Christ- She, according to Her biography,
used to visit a church when She was very young. She used to cry looking at
the picture/crucifix of Christ. It was in the graveyard of that church where
She used to meditate - imagine a young kid meditating in a graveyard! -
and the souls of the departed used to come to Her for solace- She used to
'talk to the souls drifting along in their subtle bodies!'.
... She sacrifices Her body daily like Christ, and She says 'More than
anything else Christ was a Mother'.
Well coming from the Mother of Mothers, this means that She and Christ
are one.
In fact, as Ethan Walker will love to point out, She told the kid Sarada in
an interview 'The conciousness that was in Christ is in Amma today'...
Merry Christmas.
It is uncanny - the connections between Amma's chart and Sri Ramakrishna's.
wonderful. Thanks for bringing that out- one more point that was shown to me
was that Amma's Navamsa moon is the same as Sri R's natal moon and both Amma
and Sri R had Rahu/ketu in 4/10.
I guess it is indicative of the same energy that has come down again.
Wonder how Christ's chart would be like- we dont know His birthday for
sure do we? was it 12/25/0000?
I wonder what connections would be between Amma's and Sri Sarada Devi's
chart - i guess Visvanathan will soon give us those details :-)..
well thanks Visvanathan for enlivening amma net.. hope all of you had a safe
eclipse.
bala
>From: hans smedbol <kasi_visvanath@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: amma-l@hindunet.org
>To: amma-l@hindunet.org
>Subject: Re: humble pranams from kenna/premarupa
>Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 00:19:14 -0800 (PST)
>
>Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!!
>
>Namaste to all my dearly beloved sisters and
>brothers.....
>
>thank you kenna for your kind welcome...i feel
>really at home here...so warmly welcomed by you
>all...
>
>Om Christave Namah!!!
>Om Christave Namah!!!
>OM Christave Namah!!!
>
>Christmas eve is here...May the Christ
>consciousness bless you all with Divine
>Love...may your hearts be filled with bliss, and
>your eyes with tears, as we contemplate the
>Divine Leelas and advent of this avatara... the
>mystery of his birth...
> Interestingly enough, just as 2000 years ago,
>more or less, when there was a so called bright
>star in the east, which had been foreseen by the
>Magi...who were Jyotishis and could tell the
>orbits of the planets....there is tonight (and
>has been for several months) a closeness in the
>heavens between Sani and Guru....they are both in
>Amma's birth nakshatra's place...in
>Krittika...and they are so close...that they are
>considered to be almost conjunct in
>Jyotish...just barely on the 7degree orb on
>maximum effect...so that would have produced a
>pretty bright double-star...a combination of
>GURU and SANI...GURU and MahaKali.....
> As well dear siblings, Sun Moon, Mercury and
>Ketu are all in Sagittarius...and Sun, Moon, and
>Mercury (!!!!) are all in Mula...the
>"roots"...the Nakshatra which points from here to
>the Galactic centre...from which, as far as i
>understand it, comes the Divine Will.....thru
>Mula as a lens to the Solar system...and
>us...Sun, Moon, and Mercury in Mula...that's
>amazing...on Christmas Eve...and there will be
>new moon tomorrow,just after the solstice the
>other day, as well as a partial solar eclipse (i
>think it's solar...not too sure tho....but since
>Ketu is in there like a dirty shirt...it's probly
>a solar eclipse, as the moon slides past and
>between the earth and sun...Pretty cosmic
>Christmas i'd say!!!what a strange
>"coincidence"....a little too eery isn't it??
>...Mother's at work.
> The reason i'm raving about Mula is because
>i've noticed in a very large percentage of Amma
>devotees (of the ones i've checked out), there is
>almost invariably a planet in MULA...or directly
>aspecting Mula, just as Amma's Jupiter (Guru)
>directly aspects Mula from 2deg 43 min Gemini....
>for example i have Mercury (Amma's Atmakaraka) in
>Sagittarius in Mula at 7 deg 28 min...in my 12th.
>the Guru's home!!!
> There She is in Her own home!!and tonight
>She's back there, so to speak, with Mercury in
>Mula at 9 deg 33 min...sitting just about smack
>dab on my Mercury....maybe that's why i'm busy
>writing away...in the service of my Guru....doing
>Mercurial things for Her....giving away some of
>Her little "secrets" that She hid so the
>Jyotishis could find and wonder........so right
>now, sun==soul, moon==emotional body, and
>Mecury==mind are all in Mula...connected with the
>centre of the Galaxy and the Divine
>Will..interesting...
>
> As per Bala's suggestion in a private letter,
>i took a little look at Amma's chart compared to
>Bhagavan Sri Ramakrsna Paramahamsadeva's....he
>said it was amazing and i'd agree...to put it
>shortly, it looks to me that Amma and Sri
>Ramakrsnadeva are very VERY STRONGLY
>connected...in fact from what little i saw, it
>looks like Sri Ramakrsna Paramahamsadeva may have
>reincarnated into Amma's body...
> He was seen by His beloved Consort, Sarada
>Devi, as an Avatara of the Mother Kali...He said
>he would be found in the north west in a
>wandering band of musicians...(like Bauls i
>guess)...and he'd be puffing a hookah...Amma is
>living in the SOUTH WEST...AND She has a
>travelling band of Musicians...the Swamis...no
>hookah tho...i think He was trying to put them
>off the chase..."They went
>thattaway!!!"...pointing at 90degrees to the
>actual trajectory....."Ah....at least i'll get a
>little peace for a while...."
> When He entered Mahasamadhi in 1886 (i think
>it was aug 16 or so), Sri Sarada Devi, lamented:
>"Ah Mother Kali!!You've Left me all alone!!!
>Where have you gone now!!!" Just as She was
>about to take off her gold bracelets and rip the
>red border off Her Sari, Sri Ramakrsna appeared
>to Her and asked Her what She was doing....She
>said that since he was dead, she was a widow, and
>widows don't wear gold bracelets or red borders
>on their saris....
> Bhagavan told Her to keep them on, because he
>was not dead but had gone only into the next
>room...so She left them on...Many people have
>thought that Amma and Sri Ramakrsna are one...and
>Sarada Devi too...(and you can see it in Amma's
>108 Names, where those Two Sweethearts are
>referred to in 4 separate stanzas, as being One
>with Amma....)but since they are all avataras of
>the Divine Mother, the Adi Para Sakti...that
>makes sense anyways.
> Still, i feel there is a "special" connection
>between Amma, Bhagavan Sri Ramakrsna
>Paramahamsadeva, and Paramahansa Yoganandaji
>....and that connection is the Divine Mother
>Dakshineswari Bhavatarini Kali Ma....(which makes
>all of us Amma devotees, Yogananda Devotees, and
>Sri Ramakrsna devotees, to be one big "happy"
>family...).They all sought Her Grace...They all
>worshipped Her thru the same Murti...
> Amma even had the original family who carved
>the Bhavatarini Kali Murti for the Dakshineswari
>Kali Temple, to carve Her a new Murti of
>Bhavatarini Kali...So Dakshineswari Kali Ma, who
>was Sri Ramakrsna's Eternal Beloved, and whom
>Yogananda immortalised for the West in his
>Autobiography (See "The Heart of a Stone Image"
>and the section on his lessons with M...{Sri
>Ramakrsna's "biographer" in that he recorded the
>"Gospel of Sri Ramakrsna"}..) is now Lovingly
>ensconced on the Temple altar at Mother's ashram
>in Amritapuri...how many more clues do we need
>here?????
> ..At the time of Sri Ramakrsna's Mahasamadhi,
>Mercury Retrograde, Sun, and Rahu/Ketu axis were
>in Leo in his 7th ( killer house)....directly
>aspecting his Moon, Mercury, Lagna, and Sun....as
>well as the Moon placement for the day in
>11deg15min Aquarius, conjunct with natal Moon,
>Mercury, Lagna and Sun...(for a death of about
>Midnight... i used 12:01...Richard Schiffman in
>his book, "Sri Ramakrsna" says Bhagavan took
>Mahasamadhi just after midnight on August 16,
>1886.)
> So it looks like (to me at least) that He took
>the "first Ketu/Rahu rocket outtahere", heading
>for that Retrograde Mecury (his Ishta
>Devata!!!)...(Amma's Atmakaraka)...in his 7th..
>You know what else is weird...also in Leo are
>Amma's Venus and Mars... Mars is Sri Ramakrsna's
>Atmakaraka...and Venus is Amma's Lord of the
>Ascendant....looks very suspicious
>to me....
> Also Venus on August 16 1886, was in Cancer
>in his 6th (enemies diseases and
>difficulties...and service to the body) directly
>aspecting His natal Mars (atmakaraka) (and it was
>a KETU/VENUS/ JUPITER period....... Mars was in
>His 9th House with natal Sani (Saturn) and Guru
>was in the 8th (a bad place for most planets
>...not for the spirit but the body) and with Sun,
>Mercury and Rahu in the 7th (a killer house if i
>remember properly)....and Venus in the 6th house
>of deseases, and enemies...and difficulties...
> i think because Mercury is ruler of the 8th,
>She is not so good for the physical health of the
>body...so if She is retrograde with Rahu..and
>Sun..in the 7th...a good time to leave...it looks
>like Mahakala's calling card....
> Also Saturn was conjunct with His natal
>Guru..(Jupiter)(wide orb)...and i understand that
>these kinds of transits can be challenging
>...especially since Guru that day was also in His
>8th...the house of death...if he left around
>midnight...then the lagna would have been
>conjunct with His natal Ketu Rahu axis...on the
>Rahu side in Taurus.....AMMA'S BIRTHSTAR
>SIGN....AND Her Lagna in the Navamsha...
> Do they look connected or what......if one
>looks to those Rahu/Ketu placements in Sri
>Ramakrsna's natal chart and the chart for the
>time of passing, one can see them apparently
>POINTING at Amma!!! it's like the pieces of a
>puzzle all fitting together...
>(unless my imagination is running riot with me!)
> Also Sri Ramakrsna had Sani (Saturn) in Libra
>in his NINTH, the house of the Guru....and in
>Amma's chart one finds HER LAGNA, AND SANI...IN
>LIBRA....This blows my mind entirely....
> Amma's Rahu/Ketu axis goes thru 6deg36
>Capricorn and 6deg36 Cancer just about exactly
>square to Sri Ramakrsna's.....and as Bala pointed
>out...they both have Guru in Gemini (His is just
>outside the exact Mula aspect)...Not only that
>but Sri Ramakrsna's Rahu in Taurus in the 4th
>(house of the Mother) at 2deg 53 Krittika is
>conjunct with Amma's MOON at 5deg 59
>minutes..Taurus in Krittika...so to interpret
>that....Bhagavan's Mother could be seen as
>Amma....in other words Bhavatarini Kali Ma...and
>Amma are not different...or one might interpret
>it that in His future life, (rahu) he would be
>embodied as Amma...
> as i understand it, the Navamsha can be looked
>to for clues as to the future life....(one of its
>uses)...and in David Frawley's "Astrology of the
>Seers" Sri Ramakrsna's Navamsha chart (dividing
>each sign up into nine parts and calculating from
>there)...has His Lagna (Ascendant) in
>LIBRA...Amma's Lagna for Her birth!!!....Also the
>Rahu Ketu axis in the Navamsha is the same as in
>Amma's Rashi chart...thru Capricorn and Cancer,
>with Rahu in Capricorn....
> You know this is quite a strong connection
>these charts have...all over the place...i see
>them pointing from Bhagavan to Amma....i may be
>wrong, but that's what i see....i have also
>compared Paramahansa Yogananda's chart with
>Amma's (i used to be in SRF)...and it seems to me
>that they too are very closely related by the
>charts, thru the placements of the Grahas...
> However instead of boring you with more
>details i'll just close this for now...
>
> May that Divine Mother Who incarnates as all
>the Beings of the Universe, both small and large,
>moving and immovable, that Mother who is the
>Beauty of the Three Worlds...Tripura
>Sundari...May She bless us, Her children with
>Pure Love of Her Lotus Feet, and May She shower
>Her Grace abundantly upon us that we may live
>entirely according to Her Will....
>
> In Our Beloved Amma's
> Divine Love,
> and in Her Holy Service,
> this little one
> most humbly,
> lovingly,
> salutes you all,
> dear siblings,
> The Divine Mother's
> Own dear Children,
> May She lift us all
> Lovingly into Her Lap
> whereon to stay
> sleepy, content,
> full of Amma's
> Immortal Bliss....
>
> as ever
> my dear ones,
> Your Own Self,
>
> visvanathan
>
>Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!!
>
>====>
>
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