From: H. McCart (hmccart@earthlink.net)
Date: Wed Dec 27 2000 - 23:05:02 PST
From: "H. McCart" <hmccart@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: humble pranams from kenna/premarupa Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:05:02 -0800 Message-ID: <LOBBLBDHFFFIGJNBGKDNCELCCCAA.hmccart@earthlink.net>
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, Visvanathan! I only jumped into say
that prior to meeting Ammachi I read numerous books about Ramakrishna
Paramahamsa and I took lessons from the Self-Realization Fellowship (the
Yoganandaji organization) and from those years of reading, I firmly believe
there is a strong connection between these 4 entities - including Sri Sarada
Devi. I have the book about the Holy Mother that has been mentioned on this
list. I can see Amma in Sarada Devi's eyes when I look at the small photo
of Sri S.D. I have. On my altar I have a photo of Yoganandaji sitting in a
chair by the Lake Shrine in Los Angeles - I believe about 1950 and he is
smiling faintly - it is an expression I have seen on Amma's face. Also,
even though Ramakrishna Paramahamsa has been dead over 100 years, I feel his
presence and that of Sarada Devi close at hand - the years dissolve. There
is a Vedanta Society retreat house on the beach here in Marin County
California and whenever I enter that property I can feel the same presence I
feel when I am at the San Ramon ashram here.
Again, thank you for sharing your insights.
At Amma's Feet,
Amritanand
-----Original Message-----
From: hans smedbol [mailto:kasi_visvanath@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 12:19 AM
To: amma-l@hindunet.org
Subject: Re: humble pranams from kenna/premarupa
Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!!
Namaste to all my dearly beloved sisters and
brothers.....
thank you kenna for your kind welcome...i feel
really at home here...so warmly welcomed by you
all...
Om Christave Namah!!!
Om Christave Namah!!!
OM Christave Namah!!!
Christmas eve is here...May the Christ
consciousness bless you all with Divine
Love...may your hearts be filled with bliss, and
your eyes with tears, as we contemplate the
Divine Leelas and advent of this avatara... the
mystery of his birth...
Interestingly enough, just as 2000 years ago,
more or less, when there was a so called bright
star in the east, which had been foreseen by the
Magi...who were Jyotishis and could tell the
orbits of the planets....there is tonight (and
has been for several months) a closeness in the
heavens between Sani and Guru....they are both in
Amma's birth nakshatra's place...in
Krittika...and they are so close...that they are
considered to be almost conjunct in
Jyotish...just barely on the 7degree orb on
maximum effect...so that would have produced a
pretty bright double-star...a combination of
GURU and SANI...GURU and MahaKali.....
As well dear siblings, Sun Moon, Mercury and
Ketu are all in Sagittarius...and Sun, Moon, and
Mercury (!!!!) are all in Mula...the
"roots"...the Nakshatra which points from here to
the Galactic centre...from which, as far as i
understand it, comes the Divine Will.....thru
Mula as a lens to the Solar system...and
us...Sun, Moon, and Mercury in Mula...that's
amazing...on Christmas Eve...and there will be
new moon tomorrow,just after the solstice the
other day, as well as a partial solar eclipse (i
think it's solar...not too sure tho....but since
Ketu is in there like a dirty shirt...it's probly
a solar eclipse, as the moon slides past and
between the earth and sun...Pretty cosmic
Christmas i'd say!!!what a strange
"coincidence"....a little too eery isn't it??
...Mother's at work.
The reason i'm raving about Mula is because
i've noticed in a very large percentage of Amma
devotees (of the ones i've checked out), there is
almost invariably a planet in MULA...or directly
aspecting Mula, just as Amma's Jupiter (Guru)
directly aspects Mula from 2deg 43 min Gemini....
for example i have Mercury (Amma's Atmakaraka) in
Sagittarius in Mula at 7 deg 28 min...in my 12th.
the Guru's home!!!
There She is in Her own home!!and tonight
She's back there, so to speak, with Mercury in
Mula at 9 deg 33 min...sitting just about smack
dab on my Mercury....maybe that's why i'm busy
writing away...in the service of my Guru....doing
Mercurial things for Her....giving away some of
Her little "secrets" that She hid so the
Jyotishis could find and wonder........so right
now, sun==soul, moon==emotional body, and
Mecury==mind are all in Mula...connected with the
centre of the Galaxy and the Divine
Will..interesting...
As per Bala's suggestion in a private letter,
i took a little look at Amma's chart compared to
Bhagavan Sri Ramakrsna Paramahamsadeva's....he
said it was amazing and i'd agree...to put it
shortly, it looks to me that Amma and Sri
Ramakrsnadeva are very VERY STRONGLY
connected...in fact from what little i saw, it
looks like Sri Ramakrsna Paramahamsadeva may have
reincarnated into Amma's body...
He was seen by His beloved Consort, Sarada
Devi, as an Avatara of the Mother Kali...He said
he would be found in the north west in a
wandering band of musicians...(like Bauls i
guess)...and he'd be puffing a hookah...Amma is
living in the SOUTH WEST...AND She has a
travelling band of Musicians...the Swamis...no
hookah tho...i think He was trying to put them
off the chase..."They went
thattaway!!!"...pointing at 90degrees to the
actual trajectory....."Ah....at least i'll get a
little peace for a while...."
When He entered Mahasamadhi in 1886 (i think
it was aug 16 or so), Sri Sarada Devi, lamented:
"Ah Mother Kali!!You've Left me all alone!!!
Where have you gone now!!!" Just as She was
about to take off her gold bracelets and rip the
red border off Her Sari, Sri Ramakrsna appeared
to Her and asked Her what She was doing....She
said that since he was dead, she was a widow, and
widows don't wear gold bracelets or red borders
on their saris....
Bhagavan told Her to keep them on, because he
was not dead but had gone only into the next
room...so She left them on...Many people have
thought that Amma and Sri Ramakrsna are one...and
Sarada Devi too...(and you can see it in Amma's
108 Names, where those Two Sweethearts are
referred to in 4 separate stanzas, as being One
with Amma....)but since they are all avataras of
the Divine Mother, the Adi Para Sakti...that
makes sense anyways.
Still, i feel there is a "special" connection
between Amma, Bhagavan Sri Ramakrsna
Paramahamsadeva, and Paramahansa Yoganandaji
....and that connection is the Divine Mother
Dakshineswari Bhavatarini Kali Ma....(which makes
all of us Amma devotees, Yogananda Devotees, and
Sri Ramakrsna devotees, to be one big "happy"
family...).They all sought Her Grace...They all
worshipped Her thru the same Murti...
Amma even had the original family who carved
the Bhavatarini Kali Murti for the Dakshineswari
Kali Temple, to carve Her a new Murti of
Bhavatarini Kali...So Dakshineswari Kali Ma, who
was Sri Ramakrsna's Eternal Beloved, and whom
Yogananda immortalised for the West in his
Autobiography (See "The Heart of a Stone Image"
and the section on his lessons with M...{Sri
Ramakrsna's "biographer" in that he recorded the
"Gospel of Sri Ramakrsna"}..) is now Lovingly
ensconced on the Temple altar at Mother's ashram
in Amritapuri...how many more clues do we need
here?????
..At the time of Sri Ramakrsna's Mahasamadhi,
Mercury Retrograde, Sun, and Rahu/Ketu axis were
in Leo in his 7th ( killer house)....directly
aspecting his Moon, Mercury, Lagna, and Sun....as
well as the Moon placement for the day in
11deg15min Aquarius, conjunct with natal Moon,
Mercury, Lagna and Sun...(for a death of about
Midnight... i used 12:01...Richard Schiffman in
his book, "Sri Ramakrsna" says Bhagavan took
Mahasamadhi just after midnight on August 16,
1886.)
So it looks like (to me at least) that He took
the "first Ketu/Rahu rocket outtahere", heading
for that Retrograde Mecury (his Ishta
Devata!!!)...(Amma's Atmakaraka)...in his 7th..
You know what else is weird...also in Leo are
Amma's Venus and Mars... Mars is Sri Ramakrsna's
Atmakaraka...and Venus is Amma's Lord of the
Ascendant....looks very suspicious
to me....
Also Venus on August 16 1886, was in Cancer
in his 6th (enemies diseases and
difficulties...and service to the body) directly
aspecting His natal Mars (atmakaraka) (and it was
a KETU/VENUS/ JUPITER period....... Mars was in
His 9th House with natal Sani (Saturn) and Guru
was in the 8th (a bad place for most planets
...not for the spirit but the body) and with Sun,
Mercury and Rahu in the 7th (a killer house if i
remember properly)....and Venus in the 6th house
of deseases, and enemies...and difficulties...
i think because Mercury is ruler of the 8th,
She is not so good for the physical health of the
body...so if She is retrograde with Rahu..and
Sun..in the 7th...a good time to leave...it looks
like Mahakala's calling card....
Also Saturn was conjunct with His natal
Guru..(Jupiter)(wide orb)...and i understand that
these kinds of transits can be challenging
...especially since Guru that day was also in His
8th...the house of death...if he left around
midnight...then the lagna would have been
conjunct with His natal Ketu Rahu axis...on the
Rahu side in Taurus.....AMMA'S BIRTHSTAR
SIGN....AND Her Lagna in the Navamsha...
Do they look connected or what......if one
looks to those Rahu/Ketu placements in Sri
Ramakrsna's natal chart and the chart for the
time of passing, one can see them apparently
POINTING at Amma!!! it's like the pieces of a
puzzle all fitting together...
(unless my imagination is running riot with me!)
Also Sri Ramakrsna had Sani (Saturn) in Libra
in his NINTH, the house of the Guru....and in
Amma's chart one finds HER LAGNA, AND SANI...IN
LIBRA....This blows my mind entirely....
Amma's Rahu/Ketu axis goes thru 6deg36
Capricorn and 6deg36 Cancer just about exactly
square to Sri Ramakrsna's.....and as Bala pointed
out...they both have Guru in Gemini (His is just
outside the exact Mula aspect)...Not only that
but Sri Ramakrsna's Rahu in Taurus in the 4th
(house of the Mother) at 2deg 53 Krittika is
conjunct with Amma's MOON at 5deg 59
minutes..Taurus in Krittika...so to interpret
that....Bhagavan's Mother could be seen as
Amma....in other words Bhavatarini Kali Ma...and
Amma are not different...or one might interpret
it that in His future life, (rahu) he would be
embodied as Amma...
as i understand it, the Navamsha can be looked
to for clues as to the future life....(one of its
uses)...and in David Frawley's "Astrology of the
Seers" Sri Ramakrsna's Navamsha chart (dividing
each sign up into nine parts and calculating from
there)...has His Lagna (Ascendant) in
LIBRA...Amma's Lagna for Her birth!!!....Also the
Rahu Ketu axis in the Navamsha is the same as in
Amma's Rashi chart...thru Capricorn and Cancer,
with Rahu in Capricorn....
You know this is quite a strong connection
these charts have...all over the place...i see
them pointing from Bhagavan to Amma....i may be
wrong, but that's what i see....i have also
compared Paramahansa Yogananda's chart with
Amma's (i used to be in SRF)...and it seems to me
that they too are very closely related by the
charts, thru the placements of the Grahas...
However instead of boring you with more
details i'll just close this for now...
May that Divine Mother Who incarnates as all
the Beings of the Universe, both small and large,
moving and immovable, that Mother who is the
Beauty of the Three Worlds...Tripura
Sundari...May She bless us, Her children with
Pure Love of Her Lotus Feet, and May She shower
Her Grace abundantly upon us that we may live
entirely according to Her Will....
In Our Beloved Amma's
Divine Love,
and in Her Holy Service,
this little one
most humbly,
lovingly,
salutes you all,
dear siblings,
The Divine Mother's
Own dear Children,
May She lift us all
Lovingly into Her Lap
whereon to stay
sleepy, content,
full of Amma's
Immortal Bliss....
as ever
my dear ones,
Your Own Self,
visvanathan
Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!!
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